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What is wrong with politics in Spain?

Started by El Profesor, Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:12

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El Profesor

Clearly a very nasty piece of work this geezer.

The sentence could be interpreted as "I'm going to find you", or maybe it's more like "The socialists should fear me speaking out too".


But whatever . . . this is a major game changer, him being locked up. Things can't be the same now.

Janet

El Mundo has published alleged original documents from Luis Bárcenas' ledgers showing PM Rajoy and other politicians received illicit payments ... the paper says it has delivered the documents to the High Court. The PP says it "doesn't recognize them".

El Pais has already published similar documents, though copies rather than originals. What El Mundo also has, in addition to originals, is Barcenas' own admission that the handwriting in the ledger is his, and an acknowledgement that the photocopies originally published by El Pais were a fraction of the documents he had in his possession.

El Mundo says the documents prove PM Rajoy received payments in through the late 90s when he was a minister in Aznar's government ... no wonder the air has been frozen solid between those two recently ...

Barcenas is still in jail awaiting his fraud trial. The judge has asked for bail of 40 million Euros, as I understand it, which has been appealed ...

The original petition calling for Rajoy to resign has already reached a million signatures, and is said to be the fastest sign-up petition in the history of change.org.

The BBC has a report in English HERE.

poker

Direct relation between economic instabuility and corruption .
The crisis money is in sombody`s pocket , as if we did not know that ...........

Ver más en: http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/1501111/0/corrupcion/economia-ue/transparency-international/#xtor=AD-15&xts=467263
HERE



Janet

amazing! carbon copy. Let's hope the last bit is too!

Janet

Officially speechless ...  :shakehead: They are this blatant. They think they can get away with this? Oh wait, there's nothing there now for them not to get away with ...

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HERE's a summary in El Pais in English.

Bottom line, not just the hard discs wiped, one of the computers didn't even have a fucking hard disc left in it!

OK, not speechless, just fucking spluttering ... fucking fucking ..... arrrgggghhhhhhhh ...  :hoppingmad:

Michael

It's actually hard for me to get my head round such blatant corruption in a modern European nation.  :giggle:
[countdown=01,06,2021,13,30][/countdown] until I return to Tenerife! :toothygrin:

Nova

So where are the digital forensics guys??  Just reformatting a hard drive doesn't hide incriminating data from a pro.  Removing the hard drive altogether probably would, obviously  ::)
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Guanche

#88
We forget one small thing. Franco is still in charge! I have absolutely no doubt that they will get away with it.
The question must be asked, why has it taken this long for the investigators to get their hands on these computers. The investigations been going on for months. The whole thing is ripe!

El Profesor

#89
 :rofl:
Boris Johnson did a lot to get the Olympics for London, and what a success they were.
However, if Madrid manages to pull off this bid today, it will be in spite of this awful woman.

I wasn't sure whether to put this in the language section . . . . but in my view this is right at the root of what is wrong with politics in Spain.
Ana Botella is the Mayoress of Madrid . . . . . . One wonders how the hell she got into that position. Perhaps her husband had something to do with it; he is Jose Maria Aznar, the ex leader of the PP and ex President of Spain.

And she doesn't seem to take the job very seriously, for example, she famously went on holiday with her family during the disaster in the discotheque in Madrid last Halloween when all those young girls died. She announced to the press that she was "thinking about the victims all the time" . . . . by the pool?

You may well have seen this programme if you have Spanish TV, because those of us with Spanish TV only really bother to watch "La Sexta" channel these days. But if you haven't . . . you will laugh. This bungle is scattered around the papers too (title in El Pais"How to useheadphones"), not that it will make any difference.
It is incredible actually; I can imagine the committee being quite enthusiastic about the Madrid bid until they are faced with these buffoons. . . . "My God! Are these the guys in charge around here?" . . . . . ha ha ha . . .  "no listen the ask"

(The presenter is El Gran Wyoming (sic), he has been the scourge of the establishment since the early 90's. Very funny, well respected ex doctor; I put this man in the same league as Jordi Evole.) (there's a bit after the break too )
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