The EU has ruled that the Canarian Government may give priority to Canarian resident workers without it being considered discriminatory. The minister for Economía, Hacienda y Seguridad, Javier González Ortiz, has said the decision is "very positive" and that the high rate of unemployment in the islands is not just a consequence of the loss of jobs, but of the large number of foreign workers seeking employment here.
Sr González Ortiz added that the weakness of the local job market and the high impact of the economic crisis here were aspects of the case that the EU took on board when deciding that the Canarian Government's priority of local workers did not breach EU treatises. This consideration has also been incorporated into the recent EU report on the new strategy for ultraperipheral regions for 2014-2020. JA (http://www.janetanscombe.com/news/eu-supports-canaries-priority-for-local-workers.html)
I hope that only applies to new recruits and not existing employees? Please tell me they haven't just made it legal to sack me for being foreign? :undecided:
No, they can't --- you have a contract. ;)
Whew! :toothygrin:
President Rivero has called on businesses to "employ residents", as the crisis deepens. He reproached businesses for contracting employees "from abroad". Now hang on a minute, Mr President. There are plenty of "residents" here who originated "abroad". If you intend to say "only employ Canarians and let foreigners go hang", please have the goodness to say it straight.
Just a thought, but i'm guessing that a significant number of employers are themselves from abroad.
So will anything this guy says make much difference?
No, and many Canarian employers won't employ Canarians either because they have a reputation for laziness and untrustworthiness (it's why you can't pay in cash in so many official places, because they don't trust their own staff!) ... but it's indicative of the nationalistic and small-minded attitude of the CC.
The CC are only interested in themselves. Not the Canaries. Nor Canarians. Despite what Rivero says about jobs for Canarians, the CC are only interested in the CC political elite. This is the party in power here, and the party, for example, in power in Arona where Canarian (!) lifeguards haven't been paid for seven months.
This is why the Prof said that Arona Ayuntamiento will now probably pay the lifeguards, because the Government (with the CC as ruling party) has told them to. They are all as one. And they are a Canarian nationalistic political elite.
And the Canarians vote for them!
I'm still confused. No need to respond.
Quote from: Myrtle Hogan-Lance on Sat 9 Mar 2013, 21:23
I'm still confused. No need to respond.
Whew, not just me then :039:
Happy Baron Bliss Day Nova! :dance3:
Rivero is a nationalist scaremonger. A sign of the times.
The reality is that it is much cheaper for a hotel to employ, say, an efficient German, Belgian, Dutch, Russian etc. receptionist and pay to teach them Spanish, than try to find a Canarian who is sufficiently trained for the job.
So that is what they do.
Rivero will get his political mileage from that, but he won't change it ....... unless he starts investing in education instead of cutting it.
Quote from: El Profesor on Sun 10 Mar 2013, 11:59
Rivero is a nationalist scaremonger. A sign of the times.
No doubt why there's a State of Canarian Nationality debate in parliament today. Why? When I was listening to the radio yesterday, caller after caller was saying that given all aspects of the crisis, how the people (all of them) are in extremis, how children TIENEN HAMBRE COÑO ... how despite all this, we have a state of nationality debate. Why the fuck?
All concluded that when in crisis and with no answers, when one's back's up against the wall, turn on the outsiders and create tribalism.
FFS :scowl:
I'll be on Radio Sur Adeje around 1.15 or so today talking about this issue, if anyone fancies listening in. :tiphat:
I wish you'd give me more notice. :(
I wish I had more notice to give you ..... ::) :D
just for context, this is as of this morning:
One does wonder, sometimes, what the President of the Canaries is actually thinking. Sometimes, however, it's all too clear. Thanks to his personal blog, and the comments of the Canarian Government's officer for development of autonomy Fernando Riós, it is now evident that the ruling nationalist party not only wants to restrict employment opportunities to "residents" (still to be defined, as I say below), but that they have illusions of scaling one of the sacred edifices of European immigration policy: free movement of peoples within the EU. "The Canaries are full" is the message, and the islands' RUP (ultraperipheral) status allows it. The EU seems to be in sympathy.
Quote from: Janet on Mon 24 Jun 2013, 11:41
just for context, this is as of this morning:
One does wonder, sometimes, what the President of the Canaries is actually thinking. Sometimes, however, it's all too clear. Thanks to his personal blog, and the comments of the Canarian Government's officer for development of autonomy Fernando Riós, it is now evident that the ruling nationalist party not only wants to restrict employment opportunities to "residents" (still to be defined, as I say below), but that they have illusions of scaling one of the sacred edifices of European immigration policy: free movement of peoples within the EU. "The Canaries are full" is the message, and the islands' RUP (ultraperipheral) status allows it. The EU seems to be in sympathy.
Seriously?
Don't you think though that this will amount to nothing? These politicians couldn't legislate their way out of a paper bag. What are they going to do - march through each and every restaurant and bar in the tourist areas demanding to see passports? Then issue massive fines?
You are right about the residency definition. My neighbour has lived and worked in the Canaries for many many years, is resident and married to a local girl. But he hails from Ibiza. Should be be thrown out of Tenerife? What about his kids?
Where it will matter is in official circles ... any government jobs, civil service ... and any contracts or subcontracts given by the government or local authorities. That, really, covers a vast number of jobs ...
I would think that if there is any impact to 'foreigner' workers the South Americans will bear the brunt. Apart from our Nova I know of only two other foreign European workers employed by the Spanish. One in a bank and one in a shop. I do however know quite a few South American workers who we have come across both in the private sector and the public sector.
I my opinion this Rivero man is just playing to the gallery, like every politician in history.
Our vecino was also working for 5 years stable with the water company in Arona and the trew him out . He is Argentinian .
Now he found work in a hotel somewhere , but is sertainly earning mutch less .
As Guanche says its probably to clean the south americans here .
I can't see how they can say europeans can not work here .
Of course discrimination there was always and now it will be even wurse with the crisis ( and we havent seen anything yet . . . ) .
British jobs for British people Canarian jobs for Canarian people.
Is this the equivalent of the BNP or Gordon Brown.. or something else?
I didn't support this idea in the UK, so I find it hard to support in Tenerife.
The best jobs for the most qualified people seems the best compromise to me.
Quote from: minesadorada on Mon 24 Jun 2013, 16:39
British jobs for British people Canarian jobs for Canarian people.
Is this the equivalent of the BNP or Gordon Brown.. or something else?
I didn't support this idea in the UK, so I find it hard to support in Tenerife.
The best jobs for the most qualified people seems the best compromise to me.
Couldn't agree more. Of course, I'm a long term expat who has benefitted from such a philosophy. :whistle:
There is an unanswered question:
Do jobs get allocated according to what you know - or who you know?
:cheesy:
What you know and who you know: two sides of the same coin.
Quote from: Myrtle Hogan-Lance on Mon 24 Jun 2013, 18:20
What you know and who you know: two sides of the same coin.
Is it Saturday night already? :giggle:
I don't get this confusion with South Americans.
A particular South American either has papers to work in Europe, or he doesn't. ?
Paulino Rivero is at rock bottom. He is embarrassing the CC, and he is unlikely to be where he is after the next election.
Its not a question of papers Prof. South American workers find it easier to gain employment in the, lets say non tourist areas Spanish being their mother tongue. I don't think this is actually aimed directly at Europeans.
It wasn't, G, but it is now, explicitly aimed at comunitarios as well as non-comunitarios ....
whether he'll get away with it, I don't know.
Quote from: El Profesor on Tue 25 Jun 2013, 12:35
Paulino Rivero is at rock bottom. He is embarrassing the CC, and he is unlikely to be where he is after the next election.
http://eldia.es/canarias/2013-06-27/2-Soria-asevera-diputados-CC-barajan-censurar-Paulino-Rivero.htm
even his friends aren't his friends any more .....
:039:
Monday's interview should be HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qf8wza4lhc85q3j/TcDxmucq2y/%282013-06-24%29%20English%20Time.mp3) to download. My slot starts at 21.20 ...
I can't seem to upload it, takes too long and times out.