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What is wrong with politics in Spain?

Started by El Profesor, Mon 17 Sep 2012, 13:12

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Janet

Ignorance. I used to think it was a printing space issue but now I just think it's ignorance. It's like Belgian. Who uses that any more? Everyone says Belgium. A Belgium man, Belgium bar ... that's the biggest nationality adjectival bugbear for me at present ...

El Profesor

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No, I think it is just "headline speak".
Headlines have a syntax all of their own.
90% of headlines follow no rules and are fairly unintelligible to anyone but native speakers. The nature of the headline requires extreme brevity, and so we get grammatical anarchy, incomplete sentences, lots of puns and noun phrases. Ambiguity is encouraged . . . or even necessary. A pedant wouldn't know where to start with headlines.

In this particular case I can't see what is wrong with using the country as an adjective . . . . thus emphasising that it is a politician of Spain, as in "the Spanish administration", rather than emphasising her nationality. A bit like "England goalkeeper scores coke" . . . . of course he is English (though not necessarily these days) and she is also Spanish.
Saves 2 letters too.

More to the point, these people had guns in their house, which in my view makes it a quintessentially American killing and somewhat atypical of the Spanish.

Perikles

Hey, an interesting development. A Spanish politician has RESIGNED over comments she made on Twitter or some cybershite space.

I didn't know they ever did that. Stupid cow

Perikles

Quote from: Prof on Tue 13 May 2014, 14:50
No, I think it is just "headline speak".
Headlines have a syntax all of their own.

Now I know it's all tragic, but the BBC have the headline

"Desperate search at Turkey mine"

and this immediately makes me wonder whether they are hatched from eggs, or what.  :017:

Myrtle Hogan-Lance

Funny, a friend of mine on FB said almost exactly the same thing.

Perikles

Interesting article in The Local about Spanish reaction to the murder of that woman. Sorry, Spain reaction. It shows that there is little sympathy for the political class in Spain - criticism of things like her having half a dozen salaries when 30% of the population is out of work, that kind of thing. The last tweet sums it up

QuoteEspaña es un país donde robar, mentir, estafar está bien
Pero no llorar la muerte de Isabel Carrasco está mal visto

Guanche

I am ashamed to admit it but my first thoughts were similar to that. And thats sad.

Myrtle Hogan-Lance

Mine too.  And I felt as if politicians had been taught a lesson that there are consequences when they behave badly.

Guanche

Quote from: Myrtle Hogan-Lance on Mon 19 May 2014, 17:05
Mine too.  And I felt as if politicians had been taught a lesson that there are consequences when they behave badly.

That seems to be the sentiments of 'Morning TV' according to the wife. It would seem there was a minutes silence for her that no body took any notice of. Not many kind words from the public.


You reap what you sow?

Perikles

It is a shame that only nice people die. If somebody gets shot, there is this ridiculous inhibition about an honest opinion that, say, this person is an absolutely vile shit, and that if you were forced to choose a person in Spain to be shot, you might as well choose this person because that would be the least loss to the country.

If you were to say that, absolutely everybody (except me) would make the false conclusion that you think they deserved to be shot, which is not necessarily the case.

I hate politics, because you have to take general ignorance into account.