some people!

[Myrtle Hogan-Lance]

While agreeing that it was a stupid thing to do. I take it you would not condem the bastard that took the vindictive step to place it on the internet? God forbid that you should ever make a mistake.

If you read the article from my last post, you will see there is even a suspicion it could have been the wife of her lover.  Of course, it is speculation right now, but the story should come out in due course if there is a prosecution.  In the meantime suffice to say she's no innocent victim.  For the record, I do not condemn the party who put it out there.  If she didn't want to be seen masturbating all over the internet, she should not have made a video. 

And no, hand on heart, never in my life would I do something so fucking stupid.  I've made many mistakes, but am intelligent enough and cognizant enough of repercussions to not make one that dumb.

[Nova]

I'm trying to work out how far I agree with you.  Yes she was stupid to make the video and even stupider if she sent it to a 27-year old footballer!  I mean, what did she think he was going to do with it?  No, don't answer that, but you know what I mean...  If she was daft enough to send it to her young lover then she was almost asking for it to be distributed.

However, by your argument, if a parent makes a video of their child's birthday party and that video is intercepted and distributed by a paedophile, is it the parent's fault for making the video?  An extreme example, I know, but I can't agree that the wilful act of making a video vindicates malicious and unauthorised distribution of it by another party (always assuming the video itself is not illegal of course).

As stupid as she was to make the video and then let it out of her direct control, I still think the bastard (or bastardess) who distributed it should be condemned.

[Myrtle Hogan-Lance]

I'm trying to work out how far I agree with you.  Yes she was stupid to make the video and even stupider if she sent it to a 27-year old footballer!  I mean, what did she think he was going to do with it?  No, don't answer that, but you know what I mean...  If she was daft enough to send it to her young lover then she was almost asking for it to be distributed.

However, by your argument, if a parent makes a video of their child's birthday party and that video is intercepted and distributed by a paedophile, is it the parent's fault for making the video?  An extreme example, I know, but I can't agree that the wilful act of making a video vindicates malicious and unauthorised distribution of it by another party (always assuming the video itself is not illegal of course).

As stupid as she was to make the video and then let it out of her direct control, I still think the bastard (or bastardess) who distributed it should be condemned.

Some great points.  First off, a question:  do we know if she sent it to her lover or whether he filmed her on his own phone?  I'm not sure it makes any difference to the result but wonder. 

Your question about an innocent video being distributed is a good one.  Presumably, there would be no porn in it so in no way could the parents be blamed if it were intercepted.  But I'd extend your question to include videos people make at parties or weddings, for example.  I know I am loathe to be filmed at such events, not because I am doing anything untoward, but I do not like not being in control of such a video with me in it.  If I were to do something deemed hilarious, I would be enraged to find it on YouTube without my permission.

Returning to the esteemed Olvido, I just can find no sympathy for a married woman and mother of two young children who makes such a video with or for her lover.  It really is asking for trouble.  It would be fatuous in the extreme to suggest that the only thing wrong with the situation is that she got caught.  Actions have consequences; if people do not want to suffer the consequences they should not commit the actions. 

Anybody making such a video should expect it to be distributed.  People like Pamela Anderson, heir-head Hilton whom you mentioned, Kim Kardashian (though I am not sure if she didn't leak it herself to kickstart her 'career'), Tulisa.  Good grief how can I name so many off the top of my head?  To my mind that is evidence of the truth that you should expect such a video to be plastered all over the internet. 

Is the leaker a gentleman or lady?  Of course not.  But she should've thought about that first. 

Geez, what kind of smiley goes with this post? 

[Perikles]

Has anybody in this actually broken any law? (assuming that being vile is not a crime per se.)

[Michael]

It is amazing sometimes what some people assume is illegal.

[Guanche]

I am not sure if any law has been broken ,we shall no doubt find out in the fulness of time.
As for me, maybe I have to much compassion for my fellow man, or in this case woman, or I am just getting old? Its the breach of trust that I find hard to understand. This woman made a private video for the titillation of a male, husband or lover I don't know. Stupid yes, but I think she has been betrayed in the most vindictive way. This video has not got onto the internet by mistake. I was put there with the full knowledge of what would happen. How any reasonable person can find that ok defeats me.

Unlike the celebs referred to that do this sort of thing for money and ego I have no doubt that this woman never expected to be betrayed in such a way. Myrtle, you say you would be enraged to find a video of you on youtube without your permission? Isn't this woman's case the same?
somethings been put on youtube without her permission. As I said in a previous post this woman is obviously made of strong stuff, maybe someone weaker might have found the embarrassment to much and done something drastic?

[Myrtle Hogan-Lance]

It is amazing sometimes what some people assume is illegal.

You're right about that.  But I'm sure that they can charge the leaker with something if they so choose.  Will be interesting to see.

I am not sure if any law has been broken ,we shall no doubt find out in the fulness of time.
As for me, maybe I have to much compassion for my fellow man, or in this case woman, or I am just getting old? Its the breach of trust that I find hard to understand. This woman made a private video for the titillation of a male, husband or lover I don't know. Stupid yes, but I think she has been betrayed in the most vindictive way. This video has not got onto the internet by mistake. I was put there with the full knowledge of what would happen. How any reasonable person can find that ok defeats me.

Unlike the celebs referred to that do this sort of thing for money and ego I have no doubt that this woman never expected to be betrayed in such a way. Myrtle, you say you would be enraged to find a video of you on youtube without your permission? Isn't this woman's case the same?
somethings been put on youtube without her permission. As I said in a previous post this woman is obviously made of strong stuff, maybe someone weaker might have found the embarrassment to much and done something drastic?

No one can fault you for your compassion.  If I were the mother of young children though, you can bet your bottom dollar I would never make a porn film which could come back to haunt me, and them.  Never ever ever.  And I would be solely to blame if I did and it came to light.  My compassion is for the kids.  How would you like it if every classmate, every future date, every future employer, future in-law, future colleague and future acquaintance saw your mom's dirty video?  Can you imagine the taunts these kids will suffer?  Sorry but the blame, imho, lies squarely with Olvido. 

I agree with you that she never expected to be betrayed like this.  However, actions have consequences.  She should have thought this one through and now she is suffering the consequences.

I have given this some further thoughts after other comments.  If it had been my husband she was screwing, I would 100% have released the video.  Vindictive, yes, but at least I'm being honest! 

The fact that she is going around defending herself and saying she has committed no crime is, for me, tasteless in the extreme and an own goal in showing no humility.  She's a grown woman and should have known better.  I've read a few articles about teenage girls who have 'sexted' a picture of themselves to teenage boys, and the fallout from it.  I do feel sorry for girls of that age to whom that happens; they are too young to appreciate the consequences, and way too trusting.  We've all been that age and know what it is like - the pressure can be hell.  And some of the young girls have killed themselves over the embarrassment, which is an absolute tragedy. 

Compassion is not the sign of old age, just a good heart. 

[Perikles]

Sorry but the blame, imho, lies squarely with Olvido. 

Technically, yes, it is entirely her fault. But which is the worse moral crime - being monumentally stupid in producing the video which harms nobody, or distributing it which hurts everybody?

[Myrtle Hogan-Lance]

Technically, yes, it is entirely her fault. But which is the worse moral crime - being monumentally stupid in producing the video which harms nobody, or distributing it which hurts everybody?

If she made it during an extramarital affair with someone else's husband, does that entitle her to get away with it without repercussion?

Stupid is as stupid does.  Make a porn video, and expect it to turn up on the internet.

[Perikles]

If she made it during an extramarital affair with someone else's husband, does that entitle her to get away with it without repercussion?

The video doesn't implicate anyone! Not everyone having an extramarital relationship is doing something they should not get away with. It depends on the specific circumstances which we don't know. She provided the bullets, but firing the gun is in my view far far more vile.