Your voice in Europe, your vote on May 25th

Started by Janet, Tue 14 Jan 2014, 14:10

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Myrtle Hogan-Lance


Michael

Quote from: Pelinor on Fri 23 May 2014, 18:07

On a slightly different note, wouldn't if be interesting if the EU had a stand alone vote. I have no doubt the only reason most people vote on the EU is because most are voting for local elections at the same time. So 'While I'm here I might as well vote' may play its part? I think I'm correct is saying the turn out in the UK was 36%? I think it would be significantly less if the EU had to stand alone for election.

I'm guessing this is quite deliberate as they know a huge number of people don't give a shit about the EU and wouldn't be arsed voting.

[countdown=01,06,2021,13,30][/countdown] until I return to Tenerife! :toothygrin:

Pete

Question from the crowd: I hear a lot of 'in/out referendum' promises 'by 2017' for the UK. What exactly do they mean?

I don't see how it can be a simple binary vote. 'Out' is simple enough, but 'In' isn't. Would the vote be to remain in Europe 'as it is now' or voting to 'go further in'?

Seems to me that whoever happened to be in power then could quite easily fulfil a pledge for an in/out referendum and sway it whichever way they wanted through such methods. For example, were UKIP to come to a majority in the next election, I can actually imagine them putting the vote as 'all the way in' vs 'all the way out', rather than 'status quo' vs 'all the way out'. I think the UK needs to stay part of the EU but I don't think it needs to (or should) go as far as joining the Euro etc.

Guanche

Its an empty offer Pete. They, and I mean all the parties, have no intention of giving any 'In out vote' on the EU. Its just electioneering. The people wouldn't fall for it anyway for the very reasons you have pointed out. Its a win win situation for the Tory's, or any of them. They know full well that there is a very high probability that the UK, given the frighteners, will not vote to leave. But an 'In' vote will give a blank cheque to anything the Europhiles want and that can't be good for the UK.

Michael

Quote from: Pelinor on Fri 23 May 2014, 20:33
Its an empty offer Pete. They, and I mean all the parties, have no intention of giving any 'In out vote' on the EU. Its just electioneering. The people wouldn't fall for it anyway for the very reasons you have pointed out. Its a win win situation for the Tory's, or any of them. They know full well that there is a very high probability that the UK, given the frighteners, will not vote to leave. But an 'In' vote will give a blank cheque to anything the Europhiles want and that can't be good for the UK.

I'm not so sure about that.  :whistle:
[countdown=01,06,2021,13,30][/countdown] until I return to Tenerife! :toothygrin:

Myrtle Hogan-Lance

Just back from voting which took about 5 minutes including the walk across the street to the cultural centre.  It was a piece of cake.  Although we took the filing cabinet all they wanted to see was our passports.  We had taken the envelopes with us so just put them in the ballot box and we never saw the inside of the voting booth.  It was a bit of an anti-climax. 


Janet

They are anticipating a huge abstention, and are calling for people to show their support for Europe in the face of what appears to be widespread apathy ...  :undecided:

Perikles

Quote from: Myrtle Hogan-Lance on Sun 25 May 2014, 14:38
Just back from voting which took about 5 minutes including the walk across the street to the cultural centre.  It was a piece of cake. 

Same for me, except that ours was closed, with no indication where to go. No notification, nothing.

What a bloody farce.

Guanche

The wifes just got a cartoon on her facebook.
'En las proximas elecciones vota Ali Baba al menos sabes seguro que los ladrones seran solo 40' With, of course a picture of Ali Baba. :tiphat: