Someone has been knocked down and killed on the TF1 this morning. Details are still very sketchy, but the poor person was run over by several vehicles around 6.30am near the Candelaria junction. There were understandably huge tailbacks on the southbound carriageway. More info as and when it's released. JA (http://www.janetanscombe.com/news/death-in-the-morning-on-tf1-motorway.html)
it is now confirmed that this poor person was a woman. There are some reports that she fell or jumped from a bridge, but this is still awaiting official confirmation.
It was only about a month ago that I made the post above about a woman who had died after falling from a bridge over the TF1 onto the motorway. I haven't heard any more about that over the past few weeks so presume an investigation is ongoing. Now, today, another similar tragedy, with a 50-year-old man falling from the Puente de Chamberi onto the TF5 near the Candelaria Hospital. Like the poor woman, he was run over by several vehicles, and naturally, died in the fall. Again it was in the morning, around 10.30, and unfortuately, again, looks as if it could have been a case of suicide. Once again the motorway came to a standstill after a death in the morning that appears self-caused. Tragic. JA (http://www.janetanscombe.com/news/death-in-the-morning-on-tf1-motorway.html)
The wife was caught up in the tail back after this tragic event the bridge in question not being far from her mothers house. There haves been at least two suicides and one attempt from this particular bridge to my knowledge. The attempt ended up being paralysed from the waist down. She is known to me personally.
Off topic, but on the trip to her mothers yesterday morning, as well as the suicide the wife encountered a lorry that had turned over just by Guimer and a HGV tyre sitting in the middle of the motorway just past Radazul. Quite an eventful 25 kilometres!
Of all the ways I could think of to off myself, jumping off a bridge would not even be on the short list. Who knows what drives people to such lengths.
no job, no paro, beyond the end of the extra 400 a month (only lasts for 6 months), no money, evicted from home because the bank is repossessing ...
youth unemployment at 80%, general unemployment at 35%, no work in sight ...
what alternative is there?
I know I'm slightly off topic, but I have to admit that never before have I been concerned about the future. In fact I would go as far as to say worry about it. Not just in Spain but in Europe in General. So many unemployed young people, people with no working future in sight. When this hopelessness turns to anger and frustration then we all need to watch out.
Quote from: Janet on Tue 9 Apr 2013, 12:16
what alternative is there?
In my book suicide is never an alternative. Pardon the partial quote. :hug:
so ... starve on the street??
Seriously, it's a real question. I really don't want to start down the "welfare is essential/deplorable" argument, but what is one to do in the situation and system we find here in the Canaries?
I personally would never consider suicide as an answer. But by the same token I have never been in a hopeless situation. As Janet says. No job, no money, living from day to day off charity and possibly on the street? With no foreseeable end to it. I wouldn't be quick to judge.
No guys, I'm not trying to judge. I guess I just have a different mindset. I would go do something. What is something? I don't know but would come up with something if I were in that situation. That probably is the difference someone who would jump off a bridge and someone who wouldn't.
Sorry Myrtle wasn't suggesting you were judging it was just a figure of speech :) I feel the same as you, I would do anything if I was that desprate even turn to crime :undecided: But I say that from my present (for the moment) comfy position. Who knows what I might do? Would I really commit a crime when push comes to shove? It goes against everything I believe in. Would I do anything? I can only guess.
crime is what the alternative seems to be taken as ... as far as the statistics indicate.
I would never throw myself off a motorway bridge. Too messy and, dare I say it, selfish. I would try my dad's idea of drinking a bottle of whisky in a hot bath. If I didn't have a bath or had no money for whisky, I would just go for a very long swim, until I was too exhausted to swim back again even if I wanted to. But yes, if I felt desperate, with no solution in sight, I would do it.
If I would be desperate I would move to Tenerife . . . . eu no a lot foreigners already did that and are desperate here . . . .
I came for the weather .
If I would be desperate I probably would have to move back to Belgium and become a social case in a country that still pays them good .
Nova don't jump I will catch you , drink the whiskey and swim to rescue you , and would probably drown drunk .
Not a good story also , but there is always someone who would want to help to my thougt .
The problem is going out to find help probably for a lot of these pour souls who commit suiside .
Quote from: Nova on Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:54
I would never throw myself off a motorway bridge. Too messy and, dare I say it, selfish.
And too risky. I knew the friend of a guy who jumped out of a window in a suicide attempt because his girlfriend had dumped him. It failed but did enough damage to confine him to a wheelchair for life.
Yes, like the person Guanche knows. Just when you thought it could not get any worse, it does, and for a very very long time.
Quote from: Nova on Tue 9 Apr 2013, 15:54I would try my dad's idea of drinking a bottle of whisky in a hot bath.
I thought that a cure for something else. :017: Is it tried and tested? (I'm just curious)
Quote from: Perikles on Tue 9 Apr 2013, 17:48
I thought that a cure for something else. :017: Is it tried and tested? (I'm just curious)
I don't even know where he got the idea from, but it sounds like it should make sense. The whisky is supposed to knock you out so you die of hypothermia as the bathwater goes cold, without knowing anything about it. It sounds quite pleasant too :D
Quote from: Nova on Tue 9 Apr 2013, 17:58
I don't even know where he got the idea from, but it sounds like it should make sense. The whisky is supposed to knock you out so you die of hypothermia as the bathwater goes cold, without knowing anything about it. It sounds quite pleasant too :D
I suspect that all that will happen is that you wake up with the mother of headaches and frozen bodyparts. That, added to the woes that caused you to try it. At that point, you might indeed jump off a bridge.
A friend of mine jumped off the Severn bridge. :03:
My preference would be a massive overdose. Drowning is supposed to be a nice way to go once you give up, but if you changed your mind........................ :whistle:
Jumping off a bridge or shooting? Way too messy as Nova said.
I think what's missing from the bath and whisky is your supposed to cut your wrists. The whisky helps dull the pain and the water stops the blood from coagulating round the wound. Of course you have to cut your wrists the correct way or it won't work.
Drowning is supposed to be very painful as is a stage of hypothermia. The old fashion way in a car with a hose from the exhaust is supposed to be relatively painless if you can stand the smell of the fumes. Don't try over dose with paracetamol will not kill you quickly it can take days or even weeks by which time you may have changed your mind...... to late! Anything messy have a thought for the poor sods that have to sweep you up
I can't believe I'm typing this :undecided:
My wife has known several dialysis patients who have ended it. They were all elderly with multiple illnesses and basically had had enough.
If someone stops going for dialysis then they'll be gone in 2 weeks.
Not nice but at least no-one has to clear up after them.
You're right, and it is sad. And not as bad as jumping off a bridge; the result is virtually guaranteed.